forum threadteddeman posted Nov 24, 2025 02:14 PM
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forum threadteddeman posted Nov 24, 2025 02:14 PM
Onkyo TX-RZ50 9.2-Channel AV Receiver - 1099.99 after $300 coupon - Free Prime Shipping
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Is it likely that the RZ50 could drop further? This seems to be on the low end for this and includes Dirac Live Full Bandwidth. The X3800H has better hardware but becomes a lot more expensive with the DIRAC upgrades.
The only worry I have is the reliability concerns of Onkyo HT Receivers, and knowing that the RZ50 is older hardware. In some ways the RZ30 looks more attractive to get the newer HDMI board. The RZ30 also seems to have independent subwoofer outputs which is nice if I want to add a second to match my SVS SB-2000.
Any advice from the group?
Is it likely that the RZ50 could drop further? This seems to be on the low end for this and includes Dirac Live Full Bandwidth. The X3800H has better hardware but becomes a lot more expensive with the DIRAC upgrades.
The only worry I have is the reliability concerns of Onkyo HT Receivers, and knowing that the RZ50 is older hardware. In some ways the RZ30 looks more attractive to get the newer HDMI board. The RZ30 also seems to have independent subwoofer outputs which is nice if I want to add a second to match my SVS SB-2000.
Any advice from the group?
The PAC group did a great job introducing Dirac to the masses but I think most would admit that Denon/Marantz are creating quite a bit of churn lately!
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Performance wise, in short, the only real reason to go with the RZ50 or the 3800 over the RZ30 is if you need 11 channels.
The vast majority of Dirac owners(especially in here) don't find much benefit with DLBC.
Look how popular the RZ50 was/has been for almost 5 years & only got access to DLBC last year.
ART is pretty incredible BUT you have the optimal setup to make it worth it ime.
Remember you have to buy a 3800/Cinema 50 + 3 licenses at $640 + $100 mic to get/use ART!
One important feature left out was Denon/Marantz has access to A1EVO.
It cost nothing & gives you basically the same performance as DL & DLBC, it's a game changer ime!
FYI to get the Dirac that's included in these PAC units is just DL which is $280 right now.
The RZ30 for $750 is hard to beat IF you don't need 11 channels and after Dirac imo.
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